Me: BACK COMES THE TROLL!!!! HUZZAH!!!!
Self: uh, you might wanna change your name back…
Me: Who asked you?!?! Go away…
Self: Dude, calm down… it hasn’t won the vote yet… you better support it a bit…
Me: son of a *****... I forgot people might actually vote for baloth… nah, who the hell would do that…
Self: I dunno… there are a lot of drunks and stoners that play MTG, you know.
Me: this is getting depressing…

VOTE TROLL ASCETIC FOR 10TH EDITION!! NOW!!

But seriously… now it pisses me off that Paladin won the vote last week, because IF Troll wins, it’ll be battling Paladins for two years straight, and that might get DAMN annoying… and i’m kinda worried people will choose Baloth for that reason. Either way, i’m glad WotC at least considered Mr. Untouchable for 10E…

Edit: That also makes me kinda happy that Hurricane didn’t get into 10E… I’ll get some direct damage with my Troll, AND he won’t die in the stormy weather… ahhhhh… how sweet the sound…

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Current Decks:
UG Aggro
Mono-Green Turbo-Allosaurus!
Mono-Red BURN

RGD Draft: 25-7-2
RGD Sealed: ***Censored***

You know what, by the way i’m voting in these “Selecting 10th Edition” polls, i’m prolly better off going against Mr. Untouchable(that’s my new nickname for him ). Hell, I thought earthquake was head-and-shoulders above hurricane; I also thought that people would look past the “he’s awesome in BW aggro!!” and “He’s awesome against Magnivore and other Wildfire decks!!” aspects of Paladin En-Vec, but I was wrong… now i’m sure Baloth will get the nod, as he’s “Good against Zoo!!”... sigh............. people need to realize that 10E will be part of a whole different format…

EDIT: Sorry for the triple post… I’m really excited.

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Current Decks:
UG Aggro
Mono-Green Turbo-Allosaurus!
Mono-Red BURN

RGD Draft: 25-7-2
RGD Sealed: ***Censored***

i voted baloth. bitch.

Love,
Matt

Standard: Ideal 31-7-8

Yeah.... you and all the other homos that want a “4/4 for 4” lifegain deck for a full 2 months… seriously, some people need to get a grip.

LOL, one guy on MTGS even made an argument for Baloth including “Plaxmanta is a beast!”... whatever…

Amazingly efficient “Gain 4 Life” cards(ribbons of night, pulse of the fields, azorius herald, fetters, hierarch, baloth) are all over the place now. There’s only one Troll...

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Current Decks:
UG Aggro
Mono-Green Turbo-Allosaurus!
Mono-Red BURN

RGD Draft: 25-7-2
RGD Sealed: ***Censored***

I voted for the Djinn… It’s the most easily splashable, and I’ve always enjoyed him.

JM2C

RGD Sealed Pariah’s Sheild(s) pulled: 17
RGD Sealed’s Played in: 16
(One was shiny...)

I like big creatures and I cannot lie
You other players can’t deny
That when a beast walks in with an itty bitty cost
And your blockers are all lost
You get removal!

The Djinn is by far the worst choice. Baloth is strickly better than him - a 4/4 with a benefit, or for one more stupid toughness a drawback instead? sheesh. more splashable maybe but I don’t see that as a problem.

I’m voting for the Troll. I HATE playing against him though - but he’s fun when he’s on your side It does bug me if green gets super powerful stuff, but I think they will anyway, green is R&D’s baby right now.

I hope it’s true that every snowflake is unique, because I never want to see one like this again.

Baloth has other targets too -

Trygon Predator
Indrik Stomphowler
Assault Zeppelid
Drekavac
DGroodion (I think)
Plaxmanta
Helium Squirter
Protean Hulk - hmm, I’ve heard having a sac outlet for him can be good...get another beast?  Yes thanks, I will.  12 points of possible life gain at instant speed can be relevant sometimes…

Too bad Root-kin is a mutant...lol

Yes, Troll Ascetic means that Paladins will be back in force. 

I’m voting for Ernham, because it’s cool, and I have an Arabian nights one, a Judgement one, and a Beatdown one, that I’d love to be able to play.  But I knew Ambler would be creamin’ his shorts when he saw that list.

Troll got my vote, though Ravenous Baloth was rather tempting.  TrollEquip is just so much fun!  And as long as we’ve got Paladin around also, we might as well do some sort of G/W equipment toolbox deck.  I might have thought harder about Baloth, but it’s really rough on aggro decks, and I like to have lots of aggro in the format since control vs. control gets kinda tiresome (see “U/W control vs. U/W control from OD/ON Standard”.  Ernham IS easily the weakest card on the list, but if people want to help neuter green by voting for him it doesn’t bother me TOO much--green really has been R&D’s baby for quite some time like someone already pointed out.  Everyone has a million djinn because they sell for $0.10 (I just looked, and that really is what they go for--foils are worth a whole dollar!), so a lot of new/casual players may vote for djinn since they can get them easily.  It was never played when it was legal in Judgment, so it might be similar to giving green Hurricane in its rare slot for the next two years.

Blake, you remember that REALLY bland period of time when Mirrodin Rotated out of Standard and it was just 9E and Kamigawa that were T2 legal? Yeah, if Baloth joins the group, he’ll have his RGD beasty friends for that small, bland period(not as bad as Kami/9E, but still not much fun, IMO) of about two months… and the year and 10 month period after that, people will be wishing they voted for Mr. Untouchable.

And maybe we don’t need a Baloth/Hierarch-type creature forever, eh? Hierarch damn sure made his mark on T2(and still has a year+ on his contract), so it’s time to let something else take charge now. Remember, nothing’s saying that if Baloth loses this time around, he won’t show up in 11E or whatever… I personally think WotC should come up with an Anti-Hierarch for Time Spiral. Something like this:

Awesome Beasty Amazing Red Creature 2RR
Creature - Homarid(or whatever red creatures are these days)
Whenever ~ comes into play, it deals 4 damage to target player. Then if that player has less than 10 life, Sacrifice ~.
3RRR: Return ~ from your graveyard to play. Play this ability only if an opponent has 20 life or more.

*wakes up from his dream* ...wait, what?
Yeah, I could just imagine if WotC would give us just as good burn spells/creatures/etc. as they do for lifegain… that’d be nice for a change…

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Current Decks:
UG Aggro
Mono-Green Turbo-Allosaurus!
Mono-Red BURN

RGD Draft: 25-7-2
RGD Sealed: ***Censored***

uhhhh you mean flames of the blood hand?
or maybe demonfire?
or Char?

those aren’t good enough burn spells?

burn is boring anyways.

Kevin

“Wasn’t our plan just to get to 900 life and f***’em?”

Coldsnap Sealed: who cares
Coldsnap Draft: who cares

Fear not kev, i placed my magic vote for the troll, and i do expect to keep my 100% accuracy. My only worry is whether someone begins to think, well, with hurricane back, i could build a beast stompy deck and use hurricane as a finisher, and the sac a beast for 4 life guarentees that i should have more life than my opponent. With the right deck it could be a solid gameplan, but you never know what else is going to be printed. Whereas troll is just damn good in any green deck, dying only to mass removial that doesnt allow regeneration. But i think the troll will scrape by in this one.

Borrow money from pessimists - they don’t expect it back

whitestripe229 - 28 June 2006 08:06 PM

Whereas troll is just damn good in any green deck, dying only to mass removial that doesnt allow regeneration. But i think the troll will scrape by in this one.

...or cruel edict. I did that, it was fun.

Kevin

“Wasn’t our plan just to get to 900 life and f***’em?”

Coldsnap Sealed: who cares
Coldsnap Draft: who cares

Well, i’m starting to think that enough doofs will vote for baloth because of reasons UNRELATED to T2/Extended formats for next year… and that’s just sad. It’s fine if Baloth wins, but why does it have to be for all the wrong reasons. I’ve only seen like 2 people say that they actually “like” Baloth more than that of Troll/Ernham. I really should go back and switch my vote to Baloth so my 0% streak continues… but wait, then Baloth would probably end up winning by 1 vote. Just my luck, lol…

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Current Decks:
UG Aggro
Mono-Green Turbo-Allosaurus!
Mono-Red BURN

RGD Draft: 25-7-2
RGD Sealed: ***Censored***

i actually want the djinn to win, as long as they keep the greg staples art. i think it deserves to be in the core set because it is iconic to M:tG.

In my opinion, these creatures should ALWAYS be in the core set:
ernham djinn, mahamoti djinn, serra angel, sengir vampire, llanowar elves, savannah lions, prodigal sorcerer, royal assassin, orcish artillery, ball lightning, black knight, and white knight.

that list should always stayin, out of respect for veteran players and to pay homage to older generations of decks.

PS: prodigal srcerer is on there and im not changing my mind. the color pie can suck it.

Love,
Matt

Standard: Ideal 31-7-8

RagingAscetic - 28 June 2006 06:02 PM

Blake, you remember that REALLY bland period of time when Mirrodin Rotated out of Standard and it was just 9E and Kamigawa that were T2 legal? Yeah, if Baloth joins the group, he’ll have his RGD beasty friends for that small, bland period(not as bad as Kami/9E, but still not much fun, IMO) of about two months… and the year and 10 month period after that, people will be wishing they voted for Mr. Untouchable.

And maybe we don’t need a Baloth/Hierarch-type creature forever, eh? Hierarch damn sure made his mark on T2(and still has a year+ on his contract), so it’s time to let something else take charge now. Remember, nothing’s saying that if Baloth loses this time around, he won’t show up in 11E or whatever… I personally think WotC should come up with an Anti-Hierarch for Time Spiral. Something like this:

Awesome Beasty Amazing Red Creature 2RR
Creature - Homarid(or whatever red creatures are these days)
Whenever ~ comes into play, it deals 4 damage to target player. Then if that player has less than 10 life, Sacrifice ~.
3RRR: Return ~ from your graveyard to play. Play this ability only if an opponent has 20 life or more.

*wakes up from his dream* ...wait, what?
Yeah, I could just imagine if WotC would give us just as good burn spells/creatures/etc. as they do for lifegain… that’d be nice for a change...

Yes, I remember that period of time.  But we JUST HAD Troll 2 years ago.  Every green deck had him then, and if he goes in 10th, EVERY green deck will have to have him again, and EVERY non-green deck will have to find some way to deal with him.  Why not let him have a rest for a while, and bring back something that is at least a year older, if not more, for more variety?  Hierarch is strictly better in most decks than Baloth (because I hear getting to keep the creature AND gain the 4 life is good), but I wouldn’t mind someone trying to build a U/G Beast deck of some sort to maximize the fun that is Baloth.  I’m not saying Troll won’t win, I’m just saying the format will be a little less fun for me with him in it.  And I’d like to see choices of cards we didn’t play with 2 years ago!